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                Appointments to Public Bodies in Scotland 
                  Modernising the System 
                  Scottish Executive Consultation Paper 
                  
                UNISON Scotland Comments 
              
            
            Introduction
            UNISON Scotland welcomes the opportunity to respond to the consultation 
            document "Appointments to Public Bodies - Modernising the System". 
            We are the country's largest union with 145,000 members in Scotland, 
            many of whom are employed by the public bodies affected by the proposals. 
             
            Whilst we welcome the Scottish Executive's commitment to review the 
            public appointments system in Scotland we believe that a more fundamental 
            review is required into public bodies themselves and their relationship 
            to the Scottish Executive, Scottish Parliament and local government. 
            We believe that the guiding principle in any such review is that public 
            bodies should be subject to democratic accountability and scrutiny. 
            Answers to Specific Questions
            Chapter 2 KEY OBJECTIVES OF THE PUBLIC APPOINTMENTS SYSTEM 
             
             
            Do you think that the objectives set out in the Chapter are the 
            right ones?
UNISON Scotland broadly agrees with the objectives 
              set. Before we can widen representation on public appointments, 
              however, the Scottish Executive needs to look at the reasons for 
              under representation of frequently excluded groups.  
            The reasons are many and complex and are related to 
              the institutional discrimination inherent within both the Scottish 
              Executive and the public bodies. UNISON Scotland believes that positive 
              action and a nurturing culture would assist those groups currently 
              under represented. 
            We have two comments about the fifth objective. Firstly, 
              we believe that it is not just women, people from ethnic minorities 
              and people with disabilities who are under represented in public 
              bodies. We suspect other groups such as younger people, lesbian 
              and gay people, and people from low income backgrounds and non traditional 
              education are also under-represented and it should be an objective 
              of the Scottish Executive to improve their representation. Secondly, 
              we believe this objective could be stronger.  
            The Executive should not just be encouraging people 
              to apply for public bodies but taking appropriate action to "ensure" 
              such groups are represented.  
            Are any more important than others?  
            UNISON Scotland believes that the last two objectives 
              should take overriding importance: to ensure a wider range of people 
              to be represented in public bodies and to ensure accessibility to 
              applicants to public bodies and to those who serve on them. 
               
              Chapter 3 ATTRACTING A WIDER RANGE OF PEOPLE TO PUBLIC APPOINTMENTS 
               
              Do you agree with the measures that the Executive intend to take 
              to promote service on public bodies to a wider audience?  
            UNISON Scotland agrees with the range of measures 
              the Scottish Executive is proposing to advertise and promote service 
              on public bodies.  
            We particularly welcome proposals for additional information 
              and briefing awareness sessions to help these groups to understand 
              and therefore be empowered to pursue public appointments. 
            In what other ways do you think the system could 
              be made more accessible and attractive to potential candidates? 
               
            The venues where publicly appointed committees meet 
              should be accessible to disabled people. Times of meeting should 
              be varied to encourage maximum participation and child care/carers 
              expenses should be available prior to meetings taking place. Adverts 
              for Public Appointment should be placed as widely as possible in 
              various community languages as well as being made available in alternative 
              formats. Community of interest papers and magazines should also 
              be used.  
            Do you think that the targets set by Scottish Executive 
              Ministers for diversifying membership of public bodies are appropriate? 
               
            UNISON Scotland believes that a targets system is 
              a second best solution.  
            If targets are to be used, however, then there should 
              be targets for the number of trade unionists included. For too many 
              years people from trade unions have been excluded from public bodies. 
              Inclusion of trade unionists would help to address the under representation 
              of people from different backgrounds. We also believe there is a 
              powerful argument for having set aside trade union seats on public 
              bodies to ensure effective partnership working.  
            We would advocate a system of positive action and 
              the adoption of the principles of proportionality and fair representation. 
             
            In terms of gender we believe that women and men should 
              be equally represented on public bodies.  
            In terms of black people, disabled people and lesbian 
              and gay people we believe there are powerful arguments, in certain 
              public bodies, for these groups to have reserved seats to ensure 
              their voice is heard.  
            This is not an ideal solution but it would be progress 
              on what we have at the moment and would be a step towards ensuring 
              more representative public bodies.  
            Do you think that these are the right targets for 
              achieving greater representation in public appointments?  
            If targets are to be used there should be mixture 
              in the kinds of targets used.  
            There should be `across the board' targets (eg 50% 
              of all bodies in a sector should be chaired by women) and there 
              should be `specific' targets for each body (eg 50% of all board 
              members should be women).  
            We believe that the composition of Children's panels 
              should be considered separately as this skews the overall composition 
              of public appointments.  
            If Children's Panels were excluded, what targets 
              might be appropriate? Are there any other targets that you would 
              like to see included?  
            See above. UNISON Scotland would also argue for targets 
              for young people and for people from low income and non-traditional 
              forms of education.  
            What are your views on payment for service on public 
              bodies?  
            UNISON Scotland believes any system of payments should 
              reinforce the public service ethos. There should be no disincentive 
              to participating in public life and there needs to be fair compensation 
              for any work undertaken  
            Should the type and level of payment - according 
              to the type of body, the functions it carries out, or the size of 
              the budget - be reviewed?  
            UNISON believes the current system of payments is 
              arbitrary and inconsistent. We would advocate all posts being evaluated 
              against set criteria before the type and level of payment is awarded. 
             
            What specific forms of compensation - such as child 
              care costs - would you like to see being offered to members of the 
              boards of public bodies?  
            UNISON Scotland believes that appropriate levels of 
              payment for such things as child care and carers costs should be 
              made available so that a person's caring responsibilities do not 
              act as a barrier to participation in public bodies. 
               
              Chapter 5 IMPROVING THE APPOINTMENTS PROCESS AND STRENGTHENING THE 
              INDEPENDENT ELEMENT 
               
              Do you think that the proportion of independent assessors on all 
              appointment panels should be increased?  
            Yes. We believe there should always be one involved 
              in the selection process.  
            Do you think that independent assessors should 
              be drawn from a wider range of people?  
            Yes. We believe that organisations like the STUC should 
              have a role in nominating independent assessors.  
            Do you think changes are needed to the NHS system? 
             
            UNISON believes that in the long term a fundamental 
              review of the NHS in Scotland is required with a much greater democratic 
              element involved in relation to the composition of NHS Trusts and 
              health Boards.  
             
            Chapter 6 SCOTTISH COMMISSIONER FOR PUBLIC APPOINTMENTS 
               
              Do you think that a Scottish Commissioner for Public Appointments 
              should be established?  
            We strongly support such a move.  
            If so, who do you think should be responsible for 
              appointing a Scottish Commissioner?  
            The Scottish Executive should make a recommendation 
              to the Scottish Parliament and it should be the subject of their 
              approval.  
            Should the Commissioner be required to submit a 
              regular audit to Parliament?  
            Yes.  
            Could the Office of a Scottish Commissioner be 
              combined with the office(s) of another Scottish regulatory body 
              in a way that reduces the overall costs to the public purse? 
             
            UNISON would prefer to see a Commissioner having sole 
              responsibility for public appointments rather than having his or 
              her work diluted by having other responsibilities. 
               
              Chapter 7 THE ROLE OF THE SCOTTISH PARLIAMENT 
               
              How do you think the Parliament should monitor and review public 
              appointments made by the Scottish Ministers?  
            The Parliament should have a much more strengthened 
              role in terms of appointments and should be able to hold confirmation 
              hearings on proposed appointments for senior positions. The Parliament 
              should have the power to accept or refer back appointments and to 
              query current appointments where there is a perceived problem.  
            Do you believe that there would be merit in the 
              Executive and Parliament developing proposals for post-appointment 
              hearings along the lines described in the Chapter?  
             We would support hearings before appointments are 
              confirmed. 
               
              For further information please contact: 
              Matt Smith 
              Scottish Secretary 
              UNISON Scotland 0141 442 0006 (phone) 
              14 West Campbell Street 0141 331 1203 (fax) 
              Glasgow G2 6RX matt.smith@unison.co.uk 
             
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